First generation Skilsaw model 77

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PutnamEco

Skil_77

This is what I believe to be an first generation model 77 Skilsaw. I haven't really had much luck tracking the history of Skils early tools. There is a lot of info on the history of the company itself, but very little on the progression of tool models through the years. Skils own website provides a nice overview of their  history. http://www.skiltools.com/en/AboutUs/SkilHeritage/  Skils original model saw was called the Michel Electric Hand Saw  Which later came to be called the Model E. Production of this tool was started in 1928 in, I believe, Chicago.

While interesting, it is not yet really collectible due to the sheer numbers of these saw that where produced. If your looking for a collectible saw I would either suggest a Model E or for a more modern one, one of the 250 saws that Skil offered as a limited edition, that was painted in an American flag style color scheme. If your really into classic Skil you will also want one of their model 100 "Surfboard" planers.

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This saw still runs great. It is a 10 Amp. saw. It has enough power in my opinion, to still be quite useful. When I purchased this saw its gearcase was filled with grease, not oil, and included in the tools case was a tube of Skil  branded grease. After going back and forth with Skils customer service who insisted that none of their model 77s ran grease, I tried oil. Not having an oil level hole to gauge capacity as this tools only access is through a access hole on top of the tool,  I took a guess and just covered the end of the worm  drive gear.  Boy was this a mistake. this saw does not hold oil well.  So I drained the oil out and regreased it.  It continues to run well, although I can't say that I run this saw often enough to comment on its durability. I have been unable to find an owners manual or any other literature on this saw and would appreciate any info any one could shed on this tool.

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Chris
I just love the look of older tools, probably because I am a huge fan of the art deco period.
Chris , Monday, 01 March 2010 1:40 PM
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SulSaw
thats bad ass,love the saw but how awesome is the box,gotta love the saw that built Americasmilies/grin.gif
SulSaw , Tuesday, 30 March 2010 4:09 PM
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I have one of those saws like in your picture. It was my grandfather's. Our family lore states that he bought it used in Waxahachie Texas in 1946. I have had the same problem you describe with the grease vs oil question. I have oil in it now and like you say, it does not hold oil well. I also have another saw which I believe to be possibly older that grandad's because it has round openings for cooling, not elongated oval openings. It was running when I bought it but I needed a part to fix Grandad's so used it for parts. It's a long story about that. About 1 month ago I found the old tool box at a yard sale in Kingman Aridzona. I am trying now to clean it up and repaint it. I need info about proper stenciling of the lettering. I also have a Skil model 67, a smaller 6" saw but identical proportionately. I grew up looking at and later using Skil worm saws, including one from Sears naturally with the Craftsman name on it but it was quite obviously a Skil. I love those old saws.
RayPerry , Tuesday, 06 July 2010 11:22 AM
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I don't know how durable these old saws are at their advanced ages, but they were the best when they were young. I am reminded of another story from the lore of my family of carpenters. About 1950 my Grandad got a contract to deck new barracks being built at an Air Force or some base in Wichita Falls Texas if I recall correctly. When you apply decking to roofs you reach the ridge with some overhang which must be sawed off. The buildings being long, the ridge was long requiring a long cut to remove it. All around, carpenters on other roofs were burning up their saws making those long cuts. But the old Skil 77 just kept right on a-sawing.
RayPerry , Wednesday, 07 July 2010 2:27 PM
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PutnamEco
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I don't know how durable these old saws are at their advanced ages
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They are still plenty durable, probably more durable than todays saws. While not a saw I use everyday, the few days that I have used it, it did everything that I've asked of it. The only reason I don't use it more often is that I don't believe I would have much luck finding replacement parts should I wear it out. One thing about these saws people forget is that they were made before carbide was involved on saw blades. Those old steel blades did not stay any where near as sharp as todays blades, so the saws have a much easier time of it then they did back in the day.
My first recollections of these saws is as part of the long running argument. Sidewinder vs. wormdrive. I'm guessing I was about ten at the time and was at one of my friends houses. His older brothers where framers and they had just come home from working and were putting their tools away. One brother used a Skilsaw and the other a Black & Decker. I don't remember what the original question was but it resulted in them expounding on the virtues and vices of each saw, at some length. A few of the memories I have of this debate, included the narrow Skilsaws ability to fit into smaller spaces, and the lighter weight of the B&D. I have taken both sides to heart and become competent with both types of saws. Each does have its place. I usually start off with a wormdrive, either for the parts of the demo that it is suited for or the framing on something new. I Usually finish with a sidewinder unless it is something like a deck that I'm working on.
I would really be interested in seeing photos of those round type cooling ducts. Does that saw say it is a model 77 on its nameplate? And that long story about your saws need for spare parts.
I would be glad to help with some more detailed photos of the stenciled letters on my case.
PutnamEco , Thursday, 08 July 2010 4:47 PM
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Thanks for your response to my note. I wound up using a piece of transparent mylar from an office supply place and made my own stencil for the letters on the side of the box. It worked out well and I found a can of Krylon that really really came close to matching the original color. I got most of the major distortions out of the metal, where I guess many a fat-butted carpenter had used it to sit on. I was not able to get a good match on the gray-whatever color though. The Krylon gray primer was pretty close but I used a Krylon periwinkle blue that was just too blue. I ain't redoing it at this stage though. It's blue and it's going to stay blue. HA. I'll have to try to dig out the old parts saw and see if I can answer your questions about it.
Old Ray Perry , Tuesday, 13 July 2010 12:52 AM
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Chris
Ray, fill free to join Tool-Rank and you can upload some photos of your saw, or you can upload them to flickr and give us the link. I am sure we would all like to see what you have.
Chris , Tuesday, 13 July 2010 1:16 AM

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